campaign finance reform, universal health care, prescription drug benefits for seniors, he wanted no tax cuts until the debt was paid down. so, mr. mayor, it's not just new york that -- [inaudible] and had a lot of other interesting things. he still wanted to give young people a second chance. he used to say he was a liberal but he was sane. which was another saying of i believe in government you have to look at the impact of this. i don't think i ever debated to discuss agreed with, anybody in this line of work who had a better feel for the impact of what people in government did on the real life of people. he could imagine what life was like. one of his great second chance ideas was that there ought to be a universal scouting program for america. for really young people and i had been out in montana and meeting with people in had 4-h and i said if every kid was in america was in 4-rbgs h we would half the letter. e said we would have far less than half. you should get behind the scouting proposal. we reconnect to the mainstream of life by giving him something positive to be a part of i